News correspondent Noel Bardon catches up senior biodiversity policy adviser with EU farmer and farm co-op group Copa Cogeca Niall Curley.

The Roscommon man discusses the ins and out of lobbying policymakers and why those fighting in farmers' corner need to be nitpicky when assessing new EU rules.

Curley chats about the EU Nature Restoration Law and around the move to reopen regulations that were agreed decades ago with targets that have been missed.

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